waterxskidoo413
The Ghettos of Inver Grove
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To be honest, I would love for the calss to grow and have the "Fairness" that seems to be currenty absent. The IWA currently has 15 "full time" pro open drivers. Of these, 8 of them run pro stock. This is 53% of Pro open racers in Pro stock. In snocross, it's about a 100% carry over, of course, they have the sponsorship ans such. But it seems like everybody thinks the addition of this class will grow. SO...not to put pressure on anyone, but I'm sure many already know if they would do it or not.
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Smekens,
Which of you is fairly confident that you would build a 600 mod sled? Not I'll think about it, but how many of you would most likely do it? As Derek pointed out, he would be back. I'm only doing pros because Shawn said that we would do it in the pros next year. As I previously stated, I want to see this class grow so that everyone is satisfied with this class.
413= philippians 4:13: I can do all things through CHRIST who strengthens me.
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glhperformance
downing wi
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My opinion is that i would run it with a stock 800. at least that is my plan. The mod is too much for the wife to handle so i plan on getting her a stock sled for drags and then i would use it for ovals. So when it comes down to it is here is what i would like to see. With the addition of mod 600s for pro only next year it would be to get the IWAs feet wet. Then the following year i would like it seen in the semi pro ranks and with that being said i think in the long run it would get more racers to come try our sport in the semi pro ranks and that being the case we then implement the rule we had before on forcing drivers to move up every year and that will intern raise the numbers in the pro rankings. This is not a resolution that will get the results next year but i think in a 2-3year deal we will have at least 12-16 pro drivers in that class and our semi pros back up to a consistant 20 drivers. This is just what i think. On the other hand We can keep prostock and bring it back down to 600 cc stock and then there will be an even playing feild in which will get all the brands competitive and should bring drivers in also. I would be in favor for stock sleds if we back them down to 600cc and if people are worried about HP then allow pipes to make noise for the crowd and bring back the HP.
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glhperformance
downing wi
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I guess i would rather see the stock sleds still with 600 stock motors with aftermarket pipes. Most pipes are cheap new or used and will bring he hp up close to were most of our 800s are stock and then there will be a closer playing feild i believe
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Petawawarace
Petawawa ON
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I know it takes more power to go fast on water, but is a stock 600 not enough power? I am just curious is all. Allowing aftermarket pipes in makes it harder to enforce and then why not allow a full mod motor?
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glhperformance
downing wi
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with the pipes people can still use there stock sled for winter use. but with full mod motors you are stuck for just racing it.
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Petawawarace
Petawawa ON
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Point taken, and that will help get people into the sport by being able to convert your trail sled into a watercrosser. I didn't think of that at all. We race in the winter, so we don't need to worry about using the sled another time of the year.
back to my earlier question, would a stock 600 be that slow on the water that you need to add aftermarket pipes in the first place?
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DM16
the mean streets
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No a stock 600 will go fine across the water there are a couple people that ran 600cc stock last year in semi-pro stock and did fairly well. chris gray even won a race a on stock 600 edge x
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glhperformance
downing wi
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that is true derek.
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H2OX175
wisconsin
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thought of some thing to add don't some of the east guy's have good 600's that they also run in the mod 800 class . New people want to get as much water time as possible. And no Chad I couldn't commit to running both classes, I do every thing myself, if I get a pit guy to help on the line or after a sink they are usually from the #1 or #26 crew if I was to sink don't know if I would have time. Kenny
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mosherman1
Pine City, NY
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glhperformance wrote:I guess i would rather see the stock sleds still with 600 stock motors with aftermarket pipes. Most pipes are cheap new or used and will bring he hp up close to were most of our 800s are stock and then there will be a closer playing feild i believe
Shawn,
I'm sure if you ran a 150+ HP Stock 800 you would like to see a 135 HP Stock 600 with pipes vs a 149 HP Mod. But who is kidding who. Looking at HP numbers the stock 800 and the Mod 600 are about equal. I'm not picking on you bud but lets be real. Also if you go with stock motors you are excluding 20+ eastern sleds that are 600 mods. Today when the EWA boys and girls go west they are limmited to 1 class. If the 600 mods were allowed you would easily get another 1/2 dozen entries $$. Anyway, I think the 2 groups comming together for the sports future is the best path. That is why we are allowing ANY 800 stock legal IWA sled to run at EWA races.
Looking at costs. You can buy a beat up edge or Gen 2 for about a grand. Strip everything off and sell the parts to keep for the water and basically get the chassis and motor for peanuts. Sending your engine to the shop costs about $2-2.5K to get the 145-150 HP. So you have $3K in a race sled. Can you build a competative 800 stocker from any brand other than Skidoo for that? No.
So lets try this It can always be changed..
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