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Akbar

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Posted: 08/01/08 02:58pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think the last pro stock final won by another manufacture other than ski doo would have probably been by Dan Hoffman probably 2 or 3 years ago which shows a big parity on a manufacture level i think everyone can agree on just trying to open some to discussion which will allow anyone running any sled able to compete and win


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Posted: 08/01/08 04:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Another thing if you go with the stock 600 motor you are also excluding all of the 700 and 800 stockers that are already running.

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I think that this is premature with doom & gloom for this class. I would wait until after Wausau to claim entries are down. By looking at who raced at grantsburg, I think that we will have plenty of entries in both Semi-Pro Stock & Pro Stock. You can not really count the Ely entries, because a lot of the drivers that normally compete in both stock classes were at Frederic. Pro Stock is growing. We have seen a lot of drivers advance to Pro Stock in the last 2 season.

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I think that once again, everyone is looking out for their own personal interests and not what is best for the sport in general. How in the world could it possibly hurt the class to open the chassis rules up (making the sleds handle better) and allowing 600 mod motors to compete with stock 800 motors (equal HP)? If someone doesn't have the skill to tune a mod, they can run a stock motor.

I guess I need someone to explain to me how this would do anything but help the class grow?

To answer Chad's question from above, Brian McCurdy Jr. would be running a 600 mod if the class were opened to that option. That is the only one I know of 100%. I think Matt Ledin would also be in 100% but I can't speak for him




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Ole, I would not be for any change that would eliminate any sleds we currently run, that would defeat the purpose of what we are trying to do. that's why I like stock 800, piped 700, mod 600 most snowmobile enthusiasts would have something that could work. Last years end of the year board meeting we spent a lot of time trying to agree to a change like this but everyone went off in there own direction. hopefully we can work things out before the meeting. Kenny

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I agree with Mike B. Lets look at what is best for the sport.
I would most likely put together a Mod600. Polaris released the 600RR last year, so that would qualify their race chassis for the "stock" venue, no?
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I would build a 600 mod for next year, but I really don't count because I have ran Pro Stock the last 4 years. I will say that I don't plan on running a stock sled next year if the class stay's the same. Once again that shouldn't matter I have said that the last 2 years, and still ended up putting something together to run.

I think 600 mod is the way to go. Stock sleds are getting less stock every year. Ever year we are going to have to change or bend rules for certain sleds, so they will be able to run.

Mark does have some good points, we should see how Wausau goes, and if anyone want's to voice there opinion on this please talk to me and the other board members, officials. I for one will vote for what the members want. Once again I think 600 mod is the way to go, but enough members come up to me and tell me it should stay the way it is, and can give me good reasons why I will vote that way.

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H2OX175 wrote:

Ole, I would not be for any change that would eliminate any sleds we currently run, that would defeat the purpose of what we are trying to do. that's why I like stock 800, piped 700, mod 600 most snowmobile enthusiasts would have something that could work. Last years end of the year board meeting we spent a lot of time trying to agree to a change like this but everyone went off in there own direction. hopefully we can work things out before the meeting. Kenny
Kenny I think last year when we discussed this class at the board meeting some people thought it would pass without much discussion like it is now getting we don't want to make changes for the sake of making changes. Mike D.

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Just so everybody is clear, if I was only looking out for my own interests, I probably would not have given Howie 2 base gaskets at Grantsburg. I want to see the best show possible. To me when you have multiple mod classes, they water down the importance of the win in both classes. When you have a Stock winner & a mod winner that is not the case. The reason that I like the class format that we currently have, it is very easy for the averge spectator to understand. I always tell people that the classes are set up like snocross. We have a stock & mod class for semi- pro & pro riders. The stock class compliments the mods. A big problem with grass drags, ice drags & oval racing is that the classes are very confusing to spectators. Nobody understands the rules except the drivers. When I look at race results I have no idea why there are so many similar classes. When you start mixing different types of sleds it is very confusing. I think that Stock 600 makes more sense than 800, but when I brought that up last year not one person agreed with me. In the spring there are numerous 1 season old snocross sleds for sale at very attractive prices. To me from a promotion point of view, we need to make the Pro sleds look like the current sleds being sold. That alone gives our sport a lot more respect. I hope when people build new sleds, they start with a current body style. We have been plagued before with the stigma that we run old junk. (I was one of them. When I went to current body styles, finding sponsors became easy.)

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I for one know how hard it is to run a stock 600 against 800's, I feel it should be either Mod 600/stock 800, or 600 mod only, or 600 stock only. running stock 600's with 800's can just be two frustrating. we started this way because thats what we had. I think The first year running Pro stock in the new format would be better than switching both.


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