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F3600

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Posted: 09/19/08 09:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

FIB wrote:

Jus shareing an email I got from my good friend Barack.





Bring about real change to our economy

$1,000 Tax Cut for Middle Class American Families
Obama and Biden will cut income taxes by $1,000 for working families, because the economy needs to be revitalized from the bottom up, not top down. Read more »

Great, we get to give another 1k to the folks who already pay $0.

Energy Rebates
Obama and Biden will enact a windfall profits tax on excessive oil company profits to give American families an immediate $1,000 emergency energy rebate to help families pay rising bills. Read more »

What is considered windfall? When do the refining companies decide to only produce enough fuel in the US to meet that mark and refine the rest in Cuba.

Create Jobs through Fair Trade
Obama and Biden believe that trade with foreign nations should create American jobs, not send them overseas. They will stand firm against agreements that undermine our economic security. Read more »

Works for me, how are we going to presure the Chinese and other south asian countries to pay their workers a "living wage" plus health and pension benefits until they die like our Union folks have?

Create 5 Million Green Jobs
Obama and Biden believe that we should invest in innovation and manufacturing jobs in the growing clean energy market, freeing us from our dependence on foreign oil within a decade and creating 5 million green jobs. Read more »

Thru freemarket practice or Govt regulation?

New Jobs Through National Infrastructure Investment
Obama and Biden believe that rebuilding our highways, bridges, roads, ports, air, and train systems will create jobs, ensure safety, and bolster our long-term competitiveness. Read more »

Wait just a dang minute here, the highway heavy Unions aren't going to give up their jobs or cut their wages\profits to compete with some Govt set price structure so how do we pay for this plus keep the Unions wages, pensions, healthcare?

Technology, Innovation and Creating Jobs
Obama and Biden will increase federal support for research, technology and innovation for companies and universities so that American workers can lead the world in cutting edge jobs and products. Read more »

I'm good with that, this is exactly where new technologies should be drempt up and then students implement them in the real world. Just hope those students stay here.

Support Small Business
Obama and Biden will level the playing field for small business by eliminating all capital gains taxes on start-up and small businesses. Read more »

Capital gains or income takes? So you only benefit if you sell your company?

Labor
Obama and Biden will strengthen the ability of workers to organize for good wages, healthcare, and secure pensions. Obama and Biden will fight for passage of the Employee Free Choice Act. Obama and Biden will ensure that labor appointees support workers' rights and will work to ban the permanent replacement of striking workers. Obama and Biden will also increase the minimum wage and make sure it remains a real wage year over year. Read more »

Flies in the face of about half of the "will do's" listed above.

Protect Homeownership and Crack Down on Mortgage Fraud
Obama and Biden will crack down on fraudulent brokers and lenders. They will make sure homebuyers have honest and complete information about their mortgage options, and they will give a tax credit to all middle-class homeowners. Read more »

This also has to have teeth for the borrowers, no more walking away from bad credit decisions.

Address Predatory Credit Card Practices
Obama and Biden will establish a five-star rating system so that every consumer knows the risk involved in credit card borrowing. They will establish a Credit Card Bill of Rights to stop credit card companies from exploiting consumers with unfair practices. Read more »

Credit lines of no more than 1 times a persons monthly income after taxes. If you can't pay for it next month don't buy it.

Reform Bankruptcy Laws
Obama and Biden will reform our bankruptcy laws to protect working people, to ban executive bonuses for bankrupt companies, and to require disclosure of all pension investments. Read more »

Protect working people from what??? Not paying their bills and walking away from debt?

Work/Family Balance
Obama and Biden will help working families by doubling funding for after-school programs, expanding the Family Medical Leave Act. They will provide low-income families with a refundable tax credit to help with their child-care expenses, and encourage flexible work schedules. Read more »

Could all be handled with a $ increase of the dependant care pre-tax program that is already in place.




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Posted: 09/19/08 09:54am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Any free thinkers 'round here?




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FIB wrote:

Jus shareing an email I got from my good friend Barack.





Bring about real change to our economy

$1,000 Tax Cut for Middle Class American Families
Obama and Biden will cut income taxes by $1,000 for working families, because the economy needs to be revitalized from the bottom up, not top down. Read more »


Energy Rebates
Obama and Biden will enact a windfall profits tax on excessive oil company profits to give American families an immediate $1,000 emergency energy rebate to help families pay rising bills. Read more »


Create Jobs through Fair Trade
Obama and Biden believe that trade with foreign nations should create American jobs, not send them overseas. They will stand firm against agreements that undermine our economic security. Read more »


Create 5 Million Green Jobs
Obama and Biden believe that we should invest in innovation and manufacturing jobs in the growing clean energy market, freeing us from our dependence on foreign oil within a decade and creating 5 million green jobs. Read more »


New Jobs Through National Infrastructure Investment
Obama and Biden believe that rebuilding our highways, bridges, roads, ports, air, and train systems will create jobs, ensure safety, and bolster our long-term competitiveness. Read more »


Technology, Innovation and Creating Jobs
Obama and Biden will increase federal support for research, technology and innovation for companies and universities so that American workers can lead the world in cutting edge jobs and products. Read more »


Support Small Business
Obama and Biden will level the playing field for small business by eliminating all capital gains taxes on start-up and small businesses. Read more »


Labor
Obama and Biden will strengthen the ability of workers to organize for good wages, healthcare, and secure pensions. Obama and Biden will fight for passage of the Employee Free Choice Act. Obama and Biden will ensure that labor appointees support workers' rights and will work to ban the permanent replacement of striking workers. Obama and Biden will also increase the minimum wage and make sure it remains a real wage year over year. Read more »


Protect Homeownership and Crack Down on Mortgage Fraud
Obama and Biden will crack down on fraudulent brokers and lenders. They will make sure homebuyers have honest and complete information about their mortgage options, and they will give a tax credit to all middle-class homeowners. Read more »


Address Predatory Credit Card Practices
Obama and Biden will establish a five-star rating system so that every consumer knows the risk involved in credit card borrowing. They will establish a Credit Card Bill of Rights to stop credit card companies from exploiting consumers with unfair practices. Read more »


Reform Bankruptcy Laws
Obama and Biden will reform our bankruptcy laws to protect working people, to ban executive bonuses for bankrupt companies, and to require disclosure of all pension investments. Read more »


Work/Family Balance
Obama and Biden will help working families by doubling funding for after-school programs, expanding the Family Medical Leave Act. They will provide low-income families with a refundable tax credit to help with their child-care expenses, and encourage flexible work schedules. Read more »



Fib'r Thats all fine and dandy stuff but the "economy is strong" G W Bush." America has nothing to fear as this is not a recession"
The Bush admin has created over 20 Million " new" jobs .......in Iraq. Housing/Mortgage woes are over and the Fed has control of the money situation.

Why change when everything is gold? Do you remember when we had "utopia" a few years back......a GOP congress,Pres. and Courts?
Bring back Utopia!


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Posted: 09/19/08 10:35am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator




what the heck in the world? USE YER TINKER.


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Posted: 09/19/08 10:37am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

That's the same list of BS the Democrats ran on two years ago and they have done just what yomama will.....NOTHING.


Mainescant says, "that's just an Urban Legend"....LOL

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Posted: 09/19/08 11:40am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Obama sounds more and more like McCain everyday. Lately he has said the the country is having recession like tendencies, and that our economy cannot fail because of the way it works. He says he agrees with what is being done to help out in this immeadiate finanmcial crisis (which his campaign managers caused). Just four days ago he was hammering on McCain because he said that the fundamentals of our economy are strong.


My vision is better then my hearing...shut up and show me something.

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Posted: 09/19/08 12:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A vote for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col.Sanders.

Yoo

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Posted: 09/19/08 12:20pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Columbo still scratching his head. "Ah . . . Sorry to bother you Mr. Obama, sir.

"Excuse me Mr. Obama, I mean Senator Obama, sir. Um . . . know you are busy and important and stuff. I mean running for president is very important and . . . ah . . . I hate to bother you. I will only take a minute ok, sir?

"See, I have these missing pieces that are holding me up, and I was wondering sir, if you could take time out of your busy schedule and help me out. You know, no big deal, just some loose ends and things.

"Hey, you have a nice place here! The wife sees houses like this on TV all the time and says boy she wishes she had digs like this you know? Is that painting real? Really? Wow. I saw something like that in a museum once!

"Oh, sorry sir. I didn't mean to get off the track. So if you could just help me out a minute and give me some details, I will get right out of your way. I want to close this case and maybe take the wife to Coney Island or something. Ever been to Coney Island ? No, I didn't think so. .

"Well, listen, anyways, I can't seem to get some information I need to wrap this up. These things seem to either be "locked" or "not available'. I'm sure it's just some oversight or glitch or something, so if you could you tell me where these things are . . . I . . . I . . . have them written down here somewhere . . . oh wait. Sorry about the smears. It was raining out. I'll just read it to you.

"Could you help me please find these things, sir?

1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- "Not available"
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- "Not available"
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None

13. Your Record of baptism-- Not released or "not available"

14. Your Illinois State Senate records--"Not available"

"Oh hey . . listen! I know you are busy! Is this too much for you now? I mean tell you what. I will come back tomorrow. Give you some time to get these things together, you know? I mean, I know you are busy, so I will just let myself out. I will be back tomorrow. And the day after. . What? Who wants to know these things, you ask?

"Why, THE PEOPLE want to know, that's who!"

Yoo

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Posted: 09/19/08 12:26pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BTW FIB...Why hasn't Obama done any of this WHILE HE IS A SENATOR?

Oh that's right...you may not understand how legislation works on the Federal Level.

The legislation is introduced in the appropriate SUB-COMMITTEE in BOTH the House and the Senate. Then if it is passed it goes to the appropriate COMMITTEE in the House and the Senate. Then if it is passed through Committee it goes to the Full House and Senate for a vote. Then if it is passed it goes to the President for either his signature or veto.

Can you please send me the actual Bill Numbers for all this that he plans on doing NOW (that he is running for President) that he COULD HAVE DONE while he was in the Senate.

Oh, I forgot to tell you...the democRATS have a MAJORITY in the House and the Senate. He could have easily got these ideas at least through the Sub-Committee and Committee.

Then again, you're the expert on legislation, and I don't know what I'm talking about.

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